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Newspaper blocks the quilt from doing it’s job. Yes, sometimes honey bees will dispose of the crystals as if it were garbage, which is why candy boards are usually given in the winter instead of the late fall. Thank you for putting together and maintaining this very informative website. :} You make me and my bees soooo happy 😀. And finally, yes, I find early pollen feeding to be detrimental to colony development. Do you like this method over your “bag of sugar and place it on the top brood box” method? You can replace the candy board with a new one, or just slide in some candy cakes, which is usually what I do. I’ve sent a photo of a representative one. Drive out some and you get slurry. Today it was warm enough for the bees to fly (crazy Ohio weather) and I saw them coming out of the hive with sugar crystals and returning with none. However, you probably won’t have leftovers. Thanks for sharing this information Rusty. Seems kinda silly. Ramsey, America's trusted voice on money, is a National best-selling author and radio host. And pinned with plenty of heavy duty staples. If I place the upper entrance in the bottom of the insulation frame, the tele-cover will protect the upper entrance from direct breezes and blowing snow. Yes, it’s been way too warm. Without knowing your climate, I have no idea. Generally, with a big healthy colony, your instructor’s advice is okay. Do you think there would be too much of a draft considering all the opening I have? I have never seen or heard of a problem. I fear they’re starving. I don’t find it necessary, but if you think it will help, go ahead. I am devastated to have lost my colony. A source of moisture is needed for bees to eat hard sugar, but there is plenty of moisture in the hive for this. Another common fallacy repeated often each winter is that bees won’t consume sugar cake if stores are adequate. I was checking hives every week or so and replenishing sugar as consumed. No. Do both the candy board and the quilt, can’t hurt, but definitely works to control condensation and more importantly gives them food whenever they need it. I followed your sugar/water recipe for baker sugar (10# sugar and 10 tablespoons water) with regular granulated sugar. I always hear stories that honey bees will not go through plastic excluders, so after a few minutes, I lifted the quilt for a quick peek. And yes, they will leave honey in place in order to go up and get the sugar. It seems to me that two full mediums (assuming they are ten-frame) would weight about 60 pounds a piece, or let’s say about 120 pounds. Do you thnk it would be ok to put a diluted essential oil mixture in/on the candy board mix to help prevent Nosema, etc? But do whatever you want. You don’t mention where you live, but I think wrapping can be overkill unless you live in a really cold place. Oftentimes someone will have a gut feeling that they don’t want to do something a certain way or they don’t like a piece of equipment, and when that happens, I believe they shouldn’t do it. After adding the water, I just reached in the pot and worked the mixture by hand. I have the same configuration for wintering the hives as you do, with the difference that the rim with the candy board has also a round one inch hole. I’d already placed the mountain feeders because of cold 20 nights. How much sugar a colony will eat depends on lots of things such as the size of the colony, how much honey they have in the hive to start with, how cold the winter is, whether the colony is exposed to wind, etc. I’ve had a pantry super but in the cold they aren’t going up so this seems a good way for them to access food wherever they are. I have a shim board that’s about an inch tall that provides room for the sugar to be placed below the inner cover. Lots of water makes syrup. (xp14882) on, the best hardcore porn site. But here’s my advice: if you don’t like the idea, don’t do it. Does this mean they really need the sugar or could it be that the cluster is so large that it simply extends into the empty center of the candy board. Guess that’s because I laid them on floor in hive? I really appreciate the science you include backing up these ideas, such as the HMF issue with cooking sugar. Your comments made me realize that while all year I have been taking care of the hives the same way during each inspection, they are different colonies with different needs. Should I use smoke in the winter? I have been scowering all sorts of books publications and the net for ideas on how to combine a cedar blanket with a candy board. Thanks so much for the info and insight Rusty! I plan to remove the feeders soon, and I wanted to use the granulated sugar pile on newspaper method of feeding and invert the Vivaldi board frame over the sugar, then place the quilt box above that, then the outer cover. Hi Rusty. For several years I’ve been looking for a way to combine a moisture quilt with a candy board. Once the winter hits, I don’t see ants or other pests around the hive; that’s mostly a warm-weather problem. I used about 1/4 more water than you suggested, and also tamped them down with quite a bit of force. I am a first year beekeeper in West Virginia. I am so cheap I do the same thing but use the gutter guard that you buy at Lowes it comes in rolls 20′ long by 6″ wide and it is less than $4. Hey, I make bread a lot, and I can knead just about anything together, “I’m sure this will work fine. Many other people have noticed bees carrying particles of sugar out of the hive and dumping it like garbage as soon as the weather gets warm. Your support matters. However, no one warned me that this upper entrance would admit mice to the hive. Fortunately for my bees, I changed my mind about the timing, softened the “craps” in water, then added more sugar to get a sandcastle consistency. I will give it some further thought. There are other ways. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Thanks The first reason is that cooking sugar syrup is both dangerous and boring, a bad combination for me because when I’m bored I don’t pay attention., I put “candy boards” of the no-cook sort on all my hives around 1 Oct, each containing about 10 pounds. Does that mean it is bad or wrong or ineffective? Hi Rusty. The instructions for moisture quilts are here: How to make a moisture quilt for a Langstroth hive. I've been running it for 8 years now. However, our days were still in the 50s, and it does appear that one of the weakened hives got attacked by wasps. Is there a chance they too would be excluded or get stuck in the new excluder trying to get to the sugar? I love this method, plus it’s easy. So I figure, added to other colony stresses in winter, it just isn’t worth it. Last winter in Portland OR the temps were very mild. Now one more question. What is the quilt everyone keeps talking about? Last year was a bad year and I was forced to put them on early. Is there any danger of the cluster eventually moving through the excluder by the end of winter and leaving the queen behind? Part of the reason may be that the hive is dryer in spring and summer. You just plan your future incomes and expenses in the calendar. And there’s probably more in the brood boxes, so it sounds like you are in good shape. The top & bottom formed a very hard crust but the interior, while it showed a fair amount of hardening was far from solid. A candy board placed now should easily take you through to the end of April, but I would check after a month just to see that everything is okay. HoneyMoney increases your awareness about your money habits. Or do you check throughout the winter and sometimes replace candy boards? I also made your moisture quilt, also great! 80 lbs out of the 120+ I’m told I’ll need). I sometimes think it’s more about the keepers than the bees. I will look at the gutter guard, sounds like an interesting idea. This product belongs in the failed product extension bin and should be removed for sale. 😀 –sarah. I try not to use anything with an odor (such as Honey-B-Healthy or essential oils) while honey bees or yellowjackets are still flying in the fall. The shim not only provides an entrance but gives me some extra space for the sag. Once it’s too cold to fly, they won’t cart them out. We did a careful accounting yesterday, inspecting all the frames to see how much is in there and it’s hard to know as newbies, how to assess partial frames, honey in the corners around brood, etc. I have feeding shims on my hives but they do not have the entrance hole. Before adding the board I did have what looked like a very large population of bees. If you want to return your product within 365 days we will takeit back. It’s possible I’m overthinking this! In the process of making those now and my question is: Any reason why hardware cloth with appropriate spacing (big enough to give bees access and small enough to provide adequate support for the candy board) could not be used in place of the queen excluder? I made HoneyMoney because I didn't like any other options on the market. I’ve heard seven pounds isn’t enough, 15 pounds is too much, so I arbitrarily decided on 10. I like the wood down the center, and I’m going to add the pollen patty to it. There’s probably little functional importance to the observation, other than if one is in a very dry climate it may help to jumpstart consumption of the sugar cake by misting with water before insertion. Who knows? All rights reserved Honey Bee Suite © 2009-2021 by Rusty Burlew. HoneyMoney is not about escaping from living "Paycheck-To-Paycheck". But it doesn’t change my advice. Placed newspaper into the oiled pan. And since you are in a colder climate, protecting the upper entrance from weather is a consideration. Thanks for all the info for overwintering. I’m in northern michigan and just took on ten more hives that I pick up tomorrow. At my beginner bee class last spring, the instructor advised not to give pollen patties after September in order to not encourage egg laying going into the winter. It makes it hard to know how much honey they actually have. It is non-discriminatory, encompassing both honey bees and wild bees. However, I’m always trying different system so that 1) I can have something to write about (true) and 2) so I can answer questions about different systems (if I haven’t tried them myself, it’s hard to give solid answers). 😀 Anyway, have a couple questions about the candy board…. First year overwintering in northwestern Wisconsin and was wondering about winter bees. This causes a thin layer of the brick to dissolve and provide edible food. You do not need an upper entrance; they are an option. Thisisn’t your typical money back guarantee, because it’s truly a no questionsasked guarantee. As I explain in other parts of this site, my job is not to tell a beekeeper “you should do it this way.” My job is to offer alternatives, to describe ways that some people found helpful, and when I know the science behind something, I try to explain it. I decided on ten pounds of sugar per candy board based on talking to beekeepers in similar areas. So that may mean directly above the brood boxes (if you don’t have honey supers) or directly above the honey supers if you do have them. Then the next layer becomes exposed and the same thing happens. Carefully crafted to give you a lot, but not too much, Plan your regular transactions and then only confirm them with actual amounts, Enter unplanned transactions with a simple click on a day, No need to enter transactions individually, combine related, Enter amount and description at the same time, Categories will be used for reports and charts, Track progress towards your financial goals. Once I put insulation under my cover, I’ve not had condensation in the hive. I used a rope/twine cord stapled there last year but it was a disaster…… any suggestions?? Im following the Barnyard Bee’s recipe for the concentrate: 4 tsp Tea Tree Oil, 4 tsp Wintergreen Oil, and 2 tsp Spearmint oil very well mixed into a quart of 1:1 or 2:1 syrup…. A candy board made to place below a quilt could not be solid, obviously, because moist air from the colony could not be collected by the quilt if that air never reaches the quilt. I always love your approach because whether it works or not you have applied scientific and logical thought to your design. It sounds to me like the system is working perfectly. Rusty – This is my first year using candy boards and I’m using your design though I’m only now just adding them to my hives. This year I noticed they ate through the entire pollen patty most likely because the warm winter allowed the queen to lay more than usual which required more pollen than was available out in nature. Just recording a number is not difficult, requires no new skills, and takes only 20 minutes a week. The quilt is designed to dry out, but the newspaper won’t. Last fall all my hives were short going into winter because of the long drought, so they needed lots of feed. Rusty, I’m pretty bad at following instructions, too. I understand now. I noted you mentioning a couple of times that the dry sugar absorbs moisture, is dissolved, and then is consumed. Tried it last weekend. Is fondant necessarily made by boiling sugar? This is my first year, just starting. Hi Rusty. I’ve been using a similar method for a few years and it works well for me. Hives are placed with some natural wind breaks but wrapping (with either Tyvek or black felt) seems like a small price in terms of time and money that could make the difference between getting to spring or not. Hi Rusty, I have a tbh so I have made the sugar bricks really thin and placed on wax paper and slide under comb. As for year-round feeding of sugar, I find that honey bees simply stop eating hard sugar when there is nectar to be found. Good work, Minnesota! I am so enthusiastic about the uncooked candy board setup using the plastic queen excluder as the bottom of an eke which is placed above the top brood box. In the warmer months, that is probably not the case. I think the essential oil mixture will do no harm in the candy board, but I don’t think it will help with Nosema, either. Hi, just wanted to thank you for posting this project/recipe. Just above the brood box I added the Imirie shim with the opening in front, then the candy board, then the quilt, then the lid. I don’t know if it would act differently with regular sugar, but you can experiment. 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With the entrance just below the feeder, it seems like a draft would move across the bottom of the sugar – right where you want it to be warm and moist, and the bees feeding. Thank You. .”. Maybe next year I’ll get more organized but this should get us thru this winter. Using hardware cloth with very small spacing (basically what you would find in a screen window) for the moisture quilts. I’ve used your suggestion for the past three years, I’ve been keeping bees for about 7 years, at first I had two or three hives and each year I lost all my hives. I believe that. I just placed candy boards on my hives a couple of days ago. Leisa. Drive out more and you get fondant. I’m feeling a little overwhelmed with the options for winter feeding, so updates on your impressions would be very appreciated! I am anxious to employ this technique this winter here in NE Ohio. candy board. Don’t have a lot of knowledge yet but I am learning. Thanks! I have a flat lid as well, but my lid sits on top of the legs, so that leaves about 1 1/2″ -2″ space between lid and top bars. The appearance of a partially consumed cake/brick confirms this, as we see fissures extending into the depth of the cake (like a glacier melting). By the time drones appear, you won’t have a candy board in place anymore. That first year and every year afterwards, my overwintering improved by leaps and bounds. I still check in February to see if they need more sugar. I took one & attached hardware cloth that I shaped to fit the slanted sides. You can put your upper entrance wherever you like, but as long as the colony is alive, air will flow from the bottom of the hive to the top because warm air rises. I do not have an aversion to tissue paper and dry sugar, but my major overwintering problem is moisture, so I try to provide a clear pathway for the water vapor to reach the moisture quilt. I lay down wax paper and cut two access holes and cover them with small cups, then add the sugar mix. Then, if they store it, they need to drive that water back out again. Get a prediction of how much more money needs to be reserved for expenses or can be safely invested. Mixed sugar with water in the Kitchen Aid and added on top. Next morning it was hard. Once the feeder rims were assembled, I nailed the plastic excluder onto the bottom of the rim, adding what I thought was a reasonable number of nails along all four sides. Now thinking of switching wrapping plans from Tyvek to black felt since advantage of adding some heat gain on sunny days may trump small difference in wind resistance. Calendar is the Best Way to View your Transactions, Planning is Cash Flow Based, not Budget Based. Question three is hard to answer and is more complicated than just looking at the calendar. Start with a small amount and add more if necessary, but remember the more water you add, the longer it will take to harden. Even easier, you place a bag of sugar on the top bars. Rusty this is a great idea. I wrote a post about this a while back, but the board in that example contained cooked candy. I’d like to share some advice here that can hopefully spare other new beekeepers the pain I’m going through right now. What would you do? One year I reached 11 hives and that winter I lost 10 hives, then last year I re-built to 17 hives and I fed them with the sugar boards, and that year I lost one hive. Have a good day. Moisture Quilt So stuff beneath the combs is not in the right place. didn’t lose a grain of sugar. FYI i am in NW MT where the temps are already dipping…..snow expected tomorrow, teens the next day, etc….. in case that makes a difference :} It is Zone 5 here….. 1. does it matter how deep your candy board is as in can a person have TOO MUCH candy, (too thick) in the hive? If they are dependent on it because they are short of honey, letting it go empty can result in a dead colony. While unnecessary for the sake of the bees, adding acid can help to prevent crystallization of syrup. Where do you buy your 50 lb bags of baker’s sugar at a discount price? Drive out more and you get bricks. Thoughts? The sugar hardens nicely across the plastic ones and they lay flat, which is why I chose them. I’ve been using this system for years. If winter feeding is a simple 5# bag of sugar with a slit in it, how long does one bag last in a Western Washington winter? I think it must be a psychological barrier more than anything: if you have to go through an excluder to do to work, that’s one thing; but going through to feast is something else again. Am i better off just letting the bees fill the gap with propolis if they choose or will it be too cold for them to do so? Do you agree with that? I never lost a colony while using it. I suppose bees store fondant, although the whole process seems unnecessary. Also, ever since I began beekeeping, I’ve noticed the bees will eat sugar cakes in preference to honey. Some of the moisture will condense on the underside of the candy board, which is a good thing because moisture on the surface of the hard candy allows the bees to consume it with ease. Should I add some less dense blocks or is the hardness of sugar not an issue. This year I’m up to 30 hives and I’ve made sugar boards for all, only thing I did different was I also put about two tablespoons of Honeybee healthy in each board, I place pollen patties more closer to spring ( late February). I like baker’s sugar (also known as bar sugar) because the fine particle size allows it to dissolve quickly. Lastly, like you, I like to have a little protein available to ensure the queen can continue to lay as needed through the winter. Thanks for your reply and further information. 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